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		<title>Radio Godbotherers &#8211; 20 June 2010</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jun 2010 03:42:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dave Fagg</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks to all who tuned into Radio Godbotherers last Sunday!  Unfortunately Charles Sherlock wasn&#8217;t able to make it but we had Neil Gray from Eaglehawk Salvation Army, and an interview with Simon Moyle. Below is the latest podcast, which can also subscribe to through iTunes Next show: Sunday 18 July, 2010 Time: 6-8pm AEST I hope you tune in: [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to all who tuned into Radio Godbotherers last Sunday!  Unfortunately <a href="http://www.auqa.edu.au/aboutauqa/auditors/description.php?id=1645">Charles Sherlock</a> wasn&#8217;t able to make it but we had Neil Gray from Eaglehawk Salvation Army, and an interview with <a href="http://smoyle.wordpress.com/">Simon Moyle</a>.</p>
<p>Below is the<a href="http://davefagg.podomatic.com/enclosure/2010-06-22T19_12_27-07_00.mp3"> latest podcast</a>, which can also subscribe to through<a href="http://itunes.apple.com/au/podcast/thinking-my-way-through/id322456715"> iTunes</a></p>
<p><strong>Next show:</strong> Sunday 18 July, 2010<br />
<strong>Time:</strong> 6-8pm AEST</p>
<p>I hope you tune in: if you are in Central Victoria, the frequency is 106.7FM, and you can also <a href="http://www.phoenixfm.org/stream.html">listen online</a>, and follow us on <a href="http://twitter.com/godbotherers">Twitter</a>.</p>
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		<title>Speaking in Shep this Friday</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 05:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dave Fagg</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[G&#8217;day all &#8211; I&#8217;ll be speaking in Shepparton at &#8220;Receive the Power&#8221; &#8211; it&#8217;s a reunion for people who went to World Youth Day. You can find event details here. Anyone&#8217;s who&#8217;s in the area, Catholic or just interested&#8230;come along. I&#8217;ll be speaking on &#8220;Rearranging the pews while the neighbourhood burns&#8221;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>G&#8217;day all &#8211; I&#8217;ll be speaking in Shepparton at &#8220;Receive the Power&#8221; &#8211; it&#8217;s a reunion for people who went to World Youth Day. You can find <a href="http://www.sym.org.au/receive-the-power-sandhurst/index.php">event details here.</a> Anyone&#8217;s who&#8217;s in the area, Catholic or just interested&#8230;come along.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be speaking on &#8220;Rearranging the pews while the neighbourhood burns&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>Radical Discipleship 101 &#8211; Part VI</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 23:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dave Fagg</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In following Jesus among the poor, we not only drown with all our inadequacies, flaws and sins, but rise to a new life of compassion, truth &#38; justice.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align:justify;">I’ve been asked to write some website material for a Christian conference in 2010. I thought I would post the 6 sections here and see what response I get. The audience for the website is likely to be Christians who are attracted to justice but haven’t heard much of the theology behind it; this is entry level radical discipleship.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;"><strong>‘Where do I join this kingdom revolution?’</strong></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">If you’ve read this far, you have probably already decided that you want to join this kingdom revolution. Next step is to find some people who want to do it with you. If you don’t have anyone like that, look up some of the communities mentioned <a href="http://davefagg.com.au/2009/07/08/radical-discipleship-101-part-iv/">previously</a>. They’ll help you on your way.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Most importantly, do something. This movement is not about standing on the banks of the river while others swim by. <a href="http://davefagg.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/housingcommission.jpg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-446" style="border:2px solid black;margin-left:8px;margin-right:8px;" title="Housing Commission" src="http://davefagg.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/3443022260_ac7701d5f8.jpg?w=300" alt="Housing Commission" width="300" height="225" /></a>It is about getting <strong><em>personally </em></strong>involved in people’s lives, people who are isolated, persecuted and poor. Knock on the door of the elderly neighbour. Stand up to bullies, be they small or large. Make peace. Spend a week’s coffee money on someone who actually needs it. Foster a child. Pray with a suffering parent. Invite the new person over for tea. Sit down with the loner at school. Sell your possessions and have a party for the outcasts. Tell the truth despite the consequences. Move to the wrong side of the tracks.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">The disciples simply left their nets and followed, and Jesus wants nothing more and nothing less. Jesus doesn’t care how much we know, or what we are doing now, or what we’ve done in the past. He cares about where we’re headed. In the river  of Jordan, John baptized Jesus in a symbolic drowning and rising to life. In following Jesus among the poor, we not only drown with all our inadequacies, flaws and sins, but rise to a new life of compassion, truth &amp; justice.</p>
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		<title>Radical Discipleship 101 &#8211; Part V</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 23:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dave Fagg</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This journey of compassion &#38; justice is joyful, but it’s also a battle against the forces of evil within ourselves and in our world.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’ve been asked to write some website material for a Christian conference in 2010. I thought I would post the 6 sections here and see what response I get. The audience for the website is likely to be Christians who are attracted to justice but haven’t heard much of the theology behind it; this is entry level radical discipleship.</p>
<div id="attachment_439" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 310px"><a href="http://davefagg.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/road_to_emmaus.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-439" style="border:2px solid black;margin-left:5px;margin-right:5px;" title="road_to_emmaus" src="http://davefagg.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/road_to_emmaus.jpg?w=300" alt="road_to_emmaus" width="300" height="300" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">The Road to Emmaus</p></div>
<p><strong>‘Who can walk with me on this journey?’</strong><br />
Jesus walked with 12 disciples as he went about preaching, healing and casting out evil. Why? This journey of compassion &amp; justice is joyful, but it’s also a battle against the forces of evil within ourselves and in our world. The pain in the world is real, and our own sin can often paralyse us. If we try to swim by ourselves, we will drown. We need others alongside us. It’s no surprise that Jesus sent out his disciples two-by-two and that the lion’s share of the New Testament is addressed to communities, not individuals.</p>
<p>Often you may feel alone as you feel your way into this way of compassion and justice. But there is a growing movement of Christians who are rediscovering the radical roots of our faith, who are seeing that life following Jesus means nothing less than allowing the Spirit to lead us into dark places, into hard places, to be light and life. We are discovering, to our surprise &amp; joy, that Jesus was always walking before us, and beside us.</p>
<p>Visiting some of the communities in <a href="http://davefagg.com.au/2009/07/08/radical-discipleship-101-part-iv/">Part IV</a> will put you in contact with many people who are on the same path. But if you can’t come, then check out some of these resources:</p>
<p>1. Websites/blogs:</p>
<ul>
<li><span style="color:#b22222;"><a href="http://marksayers.wordpress.com/">Mark Sayers Thinks</a></span></li>
<li><span style="color:#b22222;"><a href="http://unoh.org/sydney/">Urban Neighbours of Hope (Sydney)</a></span></li>
<li><span style="color:#b22222;"><a href="http://blogs.victas.uca.org.au/alternative/">Hold: this space</a><br />
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<li><span style="color:#b22222;"><a href="http://paceebene.org/blog/jarrod-mckenna">Jarrod McKenna</a></span></li>
<li><span style="color:#b22222;"><a href="http://www.msainfo.org/blog/">Mustard Seed Associates</a></span></li>
<li><span style="color:#b22222;"><a href="http://marcuscurnow.wordpress.com">Marcus Curnow</a></span></li>
</ul>
<p>2. Books:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.tear.org.au/resources/items/not-religion-but-love/">Not Religion, But Love </a>(Dave Andrews)</li>
<li><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Irresistible_Revolution">The Irresistible Revolution</a> (Shane Claiborne)</li>
<li><a href="http://www.unoh.org/unoh-publishing">Make Poverty Personal</a> (Ash Barker)</li>
<li><a href="http://davefagg.com.au/daveswriting/social-comment/spirituality-community-mission/">Check out some of my articles</a></li>
</ul>
<p>3. Conferences/Gatherings/Training (Australia)</p>
<ul>
<li><span style="color:#b22222;"><a href="http://www.tear.org.au/education/conferences/vic/gathering/">TEAR Australia 2009</a></span></li>
<li><span style="color:#b22222;"><a href="http://www.surrender.org.au">Surrender 2010</a></span></li>
<li><span style="color:#b22222;"><a href="http://www.justsalvos.com/index.php?page=events&amp;id=77">Just Salvos</a><br />
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<li><span style="color:#b22222;"><a href="http://forge.org.au/category/training/">Forge</a></span></li>
<li><span style="color:#b22222;"><a href="http://www.unoh.org/unoh-training">UNOH</a></span></li>
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<p><a href="http://davefagg.com.au/2009/07/03/radical-discipleship-101-part-i/">Part I</a></p>
<p><a href="http://davefagg.com.au/2009/07/05/radical-discipleship-101-part-ii/">Part II</a></p>
<p><a href="http://davefagg.com.au/2009/07/07/radical-discipleship-101-part-iii/">Part III</a></p>
<p><a href="http://davefagg.com.au/2009/07/08/radical-discipleship-101-part-iv/">Part IV</a></p>
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		<title>Radical Discipleship 101 &#8211; Part IV</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 03:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dave Fagg</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The good news of radical discipleship only becomes real in our actions.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’ve been asked to write some website material for a Christian conference in 2010. I thought I would post the 6 sections here and see what response I get. The audience for the website is likely to be Christians who are attracted to justice but haven’t heard much of the theology behind it; this is entry level radical discipleship.</p>
<p><strong>‘Where can I see this good news in action?’</strong></p>
<p>Although we can read about it and hear about it, the good news of radical discipleship only makes sense when we see it in action. So many people, in history and in the world today, have chosen to take this path of downward mobility, setting their face against the world’s obsession with success and image, and seeking the image of God in the forgotten and destitute. See <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Father_Damien">Father Damien</a> as he moves to Moloka’i to live among the lepers for 16 years, sharing their joys and hardships, eventually succumbing to leprosy himself. Or <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorothy_Day">Dorothy Day</a>, who fed, clothed and housed the poor of the Depression while speaking out against war and violence.</p>
<p>In Australia and beyond, there are dozens of communities and organisations who have been inspired by Jesus to serve on the margins. These are just some of them:</p>
<p><a href="www.catholicworker.org">Catholic Worker</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.concernaustralia.org.au">Concern Australia</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.innerchange.org">InnerCHANGE</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.unoh.org">UNOH</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.urbanseed.org">Urban Seed</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.waitersunion.org/">Waiters&#8217; Union</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.youthkzn.co.za/">Youth For Christ Durban</a></p>
<p>Although this river of justice and compassion comes from one source, it has many branches. Visit some of these places and people and dip your toe in the water.</p>
<p><a href="http://davefagg.com.au/2009/07/03/radical-discipleship-101-part-i/">Part I</a></p>
<p><a href="http://davefagg.com.au/2009/07/05/radical-discipleship-101-part-ii/">Part II</a></p>
<p><a href="http://davefagg.com.au/2009/07/07/radical-discipleship-101-part-iii/">Part III</a></p>
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		<title>Radical Discipleship 101 &#8211; Part III</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 23:20:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dave Fagg</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the river of compassion, truth and justice, Jesus doesn’t really mind if we need floaties]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’ve been asked to write some website material for a Christian conference in 2010. I thought I would post the 6 sections here and see what response I get. The audience for the website is likely to be Christians who are attracted to justice but haven’t heard much of the theology behind it; this is entry level radical discipleship.</p>
<p><strong>‘Where does this journey start?’</strong></p>
<p>The journey of compassion &amp; justice begins when we see things clearly. When William Wilberforce set foot on a slave boat and saw, truly and clearly, the horror of oppression, his journey of radical discipleship began. When we see the injustice of the gap between our wealth and the poverty of millions, <em>our</em> journey of radical discipleship begins. Whenever we open our eyes to the cruelty around us, and respond with compassion, we have already embarked on the journey.</p>
<p><a href="http://davefagg.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/zaccheus.gif"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-417" style="border:2px solid black;margin-left:5px;margin-right:5px;" title="zaccheus" src="http://davefagg.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/zaccheus.gif" alt="zaccheus" width="222" height="235" /></a>The journey starts wherever you find yourself. Zacchaeus the tax collector was in a very different place to Bartimaeus the blind man or the Samaritan woman at the well. That didn’t matter. They all followed. The journey starts despite how inadequate you feel or how little you know. The disciples knew very little of Jesus when they started and not much more by the end. That didn’t matter. They all followed.</p>
<p>In this river of compassion, truth and justice, Jesus doesn’t really mind what sort of stroke we do, how fast we swim or if we need floaties.  In fact, knowing our own inadequacies and poverty is essential if we are to enter into the poverty of others. We do not love the poor because we have the answers. Our wealth &amp; privilege are actually <em>barriers</em> to reconciliation with God, and with all those who are oppressed. By serving those on the margins, we are given the opportunity to shed the skin of privilege, thereby entering the kingdom  of God, where there are no rich or poor. We love others because we know that, despite our indifference, selfishness and greed, God loves us.</p>
<p><a href="http://davefagg.com.au/2009/07/03/radical-discipleship-101-part-i/">Part I</a></p>
<p><a href="http://davefagg.com.au/2009/07/05/radical-discipleship-101-part-ii/">Part II</a></p>
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		<title>Radical Discipleship 101 &#8211; Part II</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 06:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dave Fagg</dc:creator>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’ve been asked to write some website material for a Christian conference in 2010. I thought I would post the 6 sections here and see what response I get. The audience for the website is likely to be Christians who are attracted to justice but haven’t heard much of the theology behind it; this is entry level radical discipleship.</p>
<p><strong>‘I’m not convinced, isn’t this just for a few who are ‘called’?</strong></p>
<p>In one of Jesus’ most confronting parables, He says that when we visit the sick and imprisoned, feed the hungry, clothe the naked and welcome the stranger, we actually do these things to Jesus Himself. That is, Jesus is present in all who are poor and oppressed, and when we serve them we also serve Him.</p>
<p><a href="http://davefagg.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/sheep-and-goats.jpg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-413" style="border:2px solid black;margin-left:5px;margin-right:5px;" title="Sheep and goats" src="http://davefagg.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/sheep-and-goats.jpg?w=300" alt="Sheep and goats" width="327" height="222" /></a>But our culture teaches us to believe that this work is best done by experts who really <em>‘know what they are doing’</em>, as though poverty is a leaky tap to be fixed. Our role is to support the professionals through taxes and donations. But the parable claims that serving the poor is not a task to be completed but participation in the life of God! In serving those on the margins, we have the privilege &amp; opportunity of encountering Jesus in the flesh. If we only pay others to do this work, and do not get involved personally, we are giving up this opportunity.</p>
<p>Sure, not everyone is called to live in a slum, but everyone is called to enter hard places with no weapon but love. Certainly, not everyone will sell all their possessions, but Jesus reminds us that what we have is not ours, and has been given to us by God for the sake of others. Definitely, not everyone is called to abject poverty, but we are all called to get involved <em>personally</em> in the lives of the poor &amp; oppressed.</p>
<p>God sent Jesus, as vulnerable baby, into a world of pain, confusion and injustice. Jesus said to his followers, “<em>As God sent me, so I send you</em>”. We are sent by Jesus, as He was sent by God, into unfamiliar and difficult places, with nothing to lean on but His love. This is not a call for the special or the few, but for all. Following Jesus is not a matter of standing on the banks, cheering on those who are swimming. God wants us all to submerge ourselves in the river of compassion and justice, where we experience not only the pain of serving Him, but the joy of finding God amongst those who have been abandoned.</p>
<p><a href="http://davefagg.com.au/2009/07/03/radical-discipleship-101-part-i/" target="_blank">Part I</a></p>
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